with this information in an attempt to clear up some wrong information 1947 = 3. Genuine Parker-Hale barrel markings - roll marks and proof stamps, A Comparison: The Zouave and the Mississippi, This is from the Colorado State Muzzle Loading Association [cont], This is from the Colorado State Muzzle Loading Association Journal. Inspectors WWII German Codes & Markings GUN MARKINGS Please enter the markings you want to research and click the submit button. 0000001537 00000 n 1948 = 4. Included with the marks is a brief history of each of the manufacturers who made or are still making these replicas and the importers/distributors who imported these replicas based on what is currently known about them. The "PN" under a five point star in a wheel is the actual proof mark. 0000002272 00000 n These marks tell the country of origin of the weapon. Weekly . I think it is a new Army 1858 but the Navy Arms on the top of barrel confuses me. 0000010034 00000 n From left to right: year of manufacture, Gardone V.T. This mark appears with the standard marks and standard load marks for the caliber. for exports be able towithstand a proscribed load without damage. 0000002293 00000 n Interestingly enough, the Made in Italy stamp on the bottom did survive 2. 0000147394 00000 n fW5Zi|Fki"Mf4i{~9wY C [[8jD=z"ef ~ZckGWE(}vE|4 0000038284 00000 n 1969 = XXV. It is also these proofmarks, especially manufacturer symbols/logos that give us a history of the firearm. 0000111269 00000 n 0000107556 00000 n Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to It has an AE inside a box which indicates a 1979 manufacturing date. 0000141211 00000 n 0000003896 00000 n 0000129535 00000 n I've got some recent guns and you have extrapolated the Date Codes exactly right. 1968 = XXIV. It is not clear to me when firearms by Italian manufacturers other than Beretta began to be marked with date codes - it may have been as late as 1954, with the Roman numeral X. Update: (This was originally posted in 2006.) 0000006802 00000 n 0000003341 00000 n 0000037090 00000 n weapon. 0000007839 00000 n For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. :idunno: I know it of recent manufacture since Pietta began making this particular model only in recent years. Get this product now as it would not last. country requiring that weapons sold within the respective country, and Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. The history of some of these makers and importers are no longer available due to lost records. 0000005921 00000 n Location: High & Dry . 0000115678 00000 n Copyright 2017 and beyond. We have provided you The "not all revolvers are proofed" is unverified since nobody is willing to admit this. I never saw it extended to 2030! Revolvers are marked on barrel, on the frame, and on each chamber. Mf+wwJcC] }oUA!o=}OWWAn7 0000120205 00000 n Italian made cap and ball sixguns have a variety of markings that denote the year of manufacture, the proof houses where it was tested and the manufacturers name or logo. View Models. Taking the bbl off is the first thing I did - there are no markings on the underside anywhere. 0000012886 00000 n 0000004339 00000 n As a result, we have a group of markings appearing on replica revolvers that have taken a long time to be identified because of the special conditions in the market at that time. http://www.powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf You must have Adobe or similar software to read pdf files. %PDF-1.4 % From left to right (upside down) are the test house and black powder proof house stampings, followed by a boxed BM, denoting a . 0000105108 00000 n 0000046756 00000 n Some of the tables stop at 2010 or so. black powder proof house stamping, and Gardone proof house stamping. 0000016641 00000 n In some cases this cipher is also preceded by the figures 16, and followed by a capital B., also surmounted by a crown. They went from BU to BZ 2004-05. 0000052647 00000 n skootchingdog 4 yr. ago It seems fitting that "XXX" happened in the 70's. startxref >RPo$Q2y4%TCpu352ji%:@"BHUSYX}n CQCY}B%I"T4~S-2 +{gzIE$Or}a;nY 98cjdi (1 D,)} All photos published on this site are the property of the author or are published with the permission of the authors. An additional listing showing old PN in French does indeed mean Poudre Noire, but as most BP handguns we see these days are made in Italy then it stands for Polvere Nero - Italian for black powder. 1970 = XXVI. The 1992 = BB. :hmm: Thanks for the help. My revolver seems to have no date marks on it anywhere. ix)]'Aa-;O;KGg 6+Rg^vF$^og>XxZaNz:E Liege, in Belgium, has always been celebrated for its weapons, and established its proof house as a municipal enterprise on May 10, 1672, when it was laid down that barrels should be marked with the stamp of the city, and unproved weapons might not be sold under pain of a fine of a gold florin and the confiscation of the unproved barrel. Following is a chart displaying the year of proof symbols used from 1954 to 2003. 0000067053 00000 n Crown CP (final black powder proof for the smooth bored muzzle loader barrels. It is available on the web from Adobe as a free download. M855 Green Tip. 0000080946 00000 n It is unfortunate from the point of view of history that weapons were not marked with a date letter as is customary with silver hall-marks, but the proof-marks stamped upon arms give no indication of the period of proof. Italian Firearms Year of Manufacture Look Up. 0000007778 00000 n Proof Marks or "Proofs" as they are sometimes referred to have changed over time, therefore assisting in dating the arm. 0000003452 00000 n 0000122300 00000 n BA 112 Magazine-Tube Pump-Action Shotgun Brand: Best Hulu Arms 5% discount for over 250 pcs order. Testing the gun 0000027918 00000 n endstream endobj 137 0 obj <> endobj 138 0 obj <>/Encoding<>>>>> endobj 139 0 obj <> endobj 140 0 obj <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB]/ExtGState<>>> endobj 141 0 obj <> endobj 142 0 obj <> endobj 143 0 obj <> endobj 144 0 obj <> endobj 145 0 obj <> endobj 146 0 obj <> endobj 147 0 obj <> endobj 148 0 obj <>stream 222 0 obj <>stream 0000117775 00000 n )9/q3YgYHH}c. They are built with state-of-the-art materials, so you can enjoy safe and reliable performance with modern ammunition. FOOD, Some of these markings are COM, the Double Diamond Logo, PR, MOFRA and others as assembled below. <<9CAB7C9ADE9DBB4DB23FAD02FA255802>]>> Underneath the whole appears the word St. Etienne. 0000009527 00000 n The system of proof in Great Britain was as follows: In England, the second charter of the Gunmakers Company granted in 1672 marked the beginning of the official proving of arms, but it did not apply to weapons made elsewhere in the Kingdom, provided they were not offered for sale in the London market. visiting our on-line listing of manufacturers identifying marks, 0000015377 00000 n 0000003880 00000 n trailer 79 0 obj <>stream The well-known Waffenamt Nazi symbol was actually a military acceptance mark, and not a proof mark. Flog?5BnS'Vz] Wd;No$wBj2O56~N)T%D-69_f)Bl[RfU[aSV. Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. The hammer also wont engage the safety notches (too wide). 0000007017 00000 n C-96 (Broomhandle) Marlin Remington Ruger (& Factory Letters) Winchester U.S. Military Markings Gun Marks House Brands U.S. and an eagles head. 0000088591 00000 n trailer << /Size 67 /Info 20 0 R /Root 23 0 R /Prev 117549 /ID[<3013820267cc20c18f38ceb2ef54c0c3>] >> startxref 0 %%EOF 23 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 19 0 R /Metadata 21 0 R /AcroForm 24 0 R >> endobj 24 0 obj << /Fields [ ] /DR << /Font << /ZaDb 16 0 R /Helv 17 0 R >> /Encoding << /PDFDocEncoding 18 0 R >> >> /DA (/Helv 0 Tf 0 g ) >> endobj 65 0 obj << /S 98 /V 209 /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 66 0 R >> stream 0000027315 00000 n NRA Life Patron, US Navy 1967-2001; Vintage motorcycle racing, restoring; CAS; Trap; Skeet; US&World History; Work DoD weapons R&D. Many of the models imported are classified as curios and relics. The two upper case letters or roman numerals in a box is the code for the year the firearm was proofed. SPANISH PROOF MARKS PROOF MARKS: SPANISH PROOF MARKS, cont. 136 43 0000078548 00000 n Peacekeepers, Molalla River Rangers, ORANGE COUNTY REGULATORS,UP THE CREEK GANG ,LIFE MEMBER OF JACKSON HOLE REGULATORS,DOOLEY GANG,PRAYER POSSE, Robbers Roost Vigilantes, Dammit Gang, RO II, Ozark Posse, Southern Missouri Rangers, Bear Creek Volunteers, Dooley Gang, Geezer Gang. LSB#: 210317JM01. 0 Anyone have the latest date codes? Italian Firearms Year of Manufacture Look Up works for Beretta, Benelli and other Italian firearms. Recently someone posted a site tahta gave the codes of manufacture of Italian made guns. time, therefore assisting in dating the arm. 0000011188 00000 n 1967 = XXIII. Some proof marks on side of frame and the roman numeral XX. Bookmark SPANISH PROOF MARKS PROOF MARKS: SPANISH PROOF MARKS, cont.PROOF MARK CIRCA . Not common but very neat. 0000009076 00000 n Board Of Single Action Presenta. this location now so you can return often. 0000014256 00000 n cases. 0000084840 00000 n Join Date: March 19, 2008. Modern pistols and revolvers are proved in their last stage of manufacture when complete with action and in firing order. %PDF-1.6 % 0000003080 00000 n 0000099401 00000 n A voluminous schedule of rules and scales of charge for the proof of various kinds of small arms is in existence, and the proof is the same at London and at Birmingham; though different proof marks are employed. 0000002668 00000 n are cottage industry type weapons without a specific brand name. 36 Made in Italy". 0 Uberti Recommends. 0000009920 00000 n Proof 0000012553 00000 n $399.00. r2 e< 1{Vk)} Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. 0000097375 00000 n I saw that as wellnote that AE was used, but "BE" is skipped. 0000006039 00000 n Seen on repaired guns that required re=proofing. 0000105711 00000 n Re-proof mark, seen on black powder rifles which had been proofed with nitro powders. The standard proving of weapons rose out of the need for protection on the part of the public against unreliable weapons, and it was also a means of protecting the armourer guild and good craftsmen against outside competition with cheap imported arms. Copyright 2019 sassnet.com From time to time, new data becomes available that corrects previous information found to be incorrect based on what was known at the time. 1991 = BA. Italian firearms date year of proof codes. 0000016830 00000 n These marks are customarily the cipher of the gunsmiths guild and the mark of the State or city. In 1849 the additional ciphers for provisional proof the letters E.L. in script, enlaced, and the sign of the tower of Liege a little obelisk upon a pyramidal base, also shown on the right [above]. There is a crown over V, which is a final view mark for proof. Ever wonder what all those stamp marks on your Italian cap 'n ball revolver mean? reference books that display proof marks and their meanings. I'm going to print out this table and keep it handy for future reference. Senior Member . Also in that thread is a link to an article which describes manufacturer's marks. HWMs8WLE ydljblj+-Q%xvn Tr @w|;-'.y':BRdiR4&I &Ml7!e6"G'&y~>mh2?/.^/Fhy9xamNvYNy2k3ZX(`BIFybVE2-p$d(IF *^bSCv.* bW2P5a)M'?5*VT"fEdv/}Y4tU=iaf6hj\3qRplj9l#~ Oe{'zp{BM These VoEE&.i=Gjry&M9s PpIC9EeX 0000060740 00000 n The second is the crossed branches, with the letters A.E. startxref My wife and grand kids and my kids. 178 0 obj <>stream 0000096658 00000 n This "certifies" that each chamber was proofed at 8,800 psi with a 30% plus load. H\j0~ arsenal marks, you will find other marks or stampings. Worldwide Logistics for all your products. Pietta 1858 Remington Buffalo Black Powder Revolver - .44 Caliber 12" Barrel Brass Frame w/ Blued Barrel - RGC44. Armourers marks are quite distinct from proof-marks, and comprise the private marks, ciphers, stamps, or signatures of the individual armourers or gunsmiths. 1810 -> Liege. New rule called for marking of gauge along with shell length for smoothbore barrels. These two, and sometimes the makers private mark, may be found on many old weapons. hb````g`c`0 B@16Le7w'o{` TxMCS/xJe:JgNf_%B"\j %Ry\azM,Po}*;dA6a` q !I20d JPB`P!f)L|1>(x5 LN!A!p5_6&.g`xi,alhpg+. 0000004954 00000 n The majority of marks will be found on the barrel flats, though early guns may have stamps on the tubes, under the forend. 0000080589 00000 n DGG with backwards C with looks to be 58 after it under the barrel. Good info. August 19, 2012, 10:13 AM #8: MogrenE. To establish this rule, they constructed a proof house near the City of London. 1989 = AU. 1860 Army Engraved Black Powder Revolver .44 cal Blued. 1873 cattleman new model black powder muzzle loading Showing all 17 results Default sorting Sort by popularity Sort by newness Sort by price: low to high Sort by price: high to low There is no doubt that this system contributed much to the good report in which properly proved arms were held, and laid the foundation of much export trade. These small manufacturers started with supplying only parts and then evolved into completed guns. Anyways, the modern stampings are needed to produce a legal firearm in Italy (black powder p [roof testing and overall firearm inspection proof for example) and to allow it to be exported/imported into the USA by a number of importers/vendors under mass or individual contracts. to identify antique arms from different parts of the world, we decided source of Manufacturer Serial Numbers. The marks were obliterated when I finished the frame. Action Type: Percussion Black Powder Revolver. S. 0000016002 00000 n C.-{.-~Q~vVW?[.aMF^fV?4J/:50fb0L@w6l=lMaCFnO,ta#ip:xCr3A?Z[Hi6? 0000069587 00000 n 0000004035 00000 n ALL CAN BE SEEN IN THE P. on Jan 23, 2018. ITALIAN PROOF MARKS CIRCA PROOF HOUSE TYPE OF PROOF AND GUN since 1951 since 1951 since 1951 Brescia Gardone Gardone & Brescia provisional proof for all guns provisional proof for all guns definitive proof for guns with smokeless powder finish proof for firearms ready for sale 1st black powder proof since 1951 since 1951 The table below can be used to see if your gun was proofed in London or Birmingham. CD - 2009. 1989 = AU. 0000014575 00000 n 0000006260 00000 n Thanks, Claude. EMF's Great Western II single action revolvers and Hartford model percussion pistols are manufactured by F.A.P F.LLI. Thanks for your help. During the heyday of the reproductions, there was a great deal more sharing of parts among the Italian manufacturers than was ever suspected. SKU: FR186012. 1968 = XXIV. You are using an out of date browser. 22 0 obj << /Linearized 1 /O 25 /H [ 1485 306 ] /L 118117 /E 82195 /N 2 /T 117559 >> endobj xref 22 45 0000000016 00000 n 0000002933 00000 n and 20 Gauge. I wonder what the odds of a real Walker turning up in Switzerland are? since 1951 Gardone & Brescia 1st black powder proof PROOF MARKS: ITALIAN PROOF MARKS, cont. 0000008549 00000 n 0000001485 00000 n 0000106738 00000 n Over the years I was amazed at the poor quality control done. ModerModern Black Powder Prn Black Powder Proofmarksoofmarks Unraveling The Mystery Of Iconsy Of Icons These are the three standard stampings on every Italian-made black powder revolver, pistol, rifle and shotgun. 0000001247 00000 n 0000038657 00000 n THE PROOF MARK IS A STAR OVER PN. 0000002932 00000 n :hatsoff: That is exactly the table that I was looking for. Most specimen marks are of this nature, and it is no unusual thing to find the marks of two different smiths upon the same weapon, one man signing the lock work, the other being the barrel maker. 21 Proof Marks - Germany 1891 - 1939 proof marks: Nitro Final proof Black powder Choked bore Rifled bore Smooth bore 22 Proof Marks - Germany Weapons manufactured prior to the proof law taking effect (1893) were required grandfathered, but had . And with these symbols and date codes, we can usually track down who actually made the firearm. 0000008989 00000 n %%EOF Originally evolved by the armourers themselves, the system of proof was in nearly every arms-producing country taken over by the Municipality or the State, who imposed a series of stringent by-laws and penalties on any who sought to evade the prescribed tests. Serial Numbers. The previous owner kept it in a display in his gun room. 1945 = 1. e"GK((((JYWo b>G{9NLc>O4N&+ n2 Dashing Leper 36 Cl. 0000099472 00000 n It may not display this or other websites correctly. 0000002659 00000 n There are the RRRs, the *PN and * Gardone proof marks and an AB date code. After years of looking at and trying Remington New Army 1858 as copied by the Confederate Army during the Civil War. 0000005085 00000 n (tr_WXvvL6Eu'}OI U-XY!A:Xnid~g,~:@ZP&kl$VsYA<5FTbf]0>okJ!wK9ae0 Lc#As;$'NS.7 5bUSGD}pzYVn5"I-6.K3obuGUQ,qe2F'.2sAI/.Dr\,:cyH=y39'vT-[ 6T But I am starting to believe this is true. Proof marks are the official stamps or ciphers showing that a barrel has been properly tested with the prescribed excess charges of powder and ball that allow a large factor of safety to the user. 0000003744 00000 n Italian Proofmarks & Dates of Manufacture 1945 - 2030 By Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 December 20, 2013 in SASS Wire Start new topic Posted December 20, 2013 Here are the codes for knowing when your Italian-manufactured firearm was made (proof date) This is from an Italian shotgun Website: shotguns.se/html/italy.htm {Za%a\#XDs9dE;*ci8=agercR"Vf|^z 96MXKk8}vd+X0L@skz j> 'th,6bB%t%]iNjNyksz+l4 C2&y*8NOalS?E:{'-~+[+GOk-cOcJ( oGljoR_Gb }6[w;vd ! endstream endobj 34 0 obj 782 endobj 35 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 34 0 R >> stream Also has pn with shield on cylinder. NRA Museums: PROOF MARKS - Comparing the proof marks on your gun to this chart may help you determine where and when your gun was made, including guns where no other markings are evident. 0000002052 00000 n proof marks. 0000011024 00000 n 0000011827 00000 n Gun Proof Marks, Stamps and Date Codes . Ridgecrest, PRoC (Peoples Republic of California). Italian Gun Manufactures Proof Marks & Dates 41 2 comments Best Add a Comment csaduck 4 yr. ago Many of us have Italian guns that were not quite sure of the date of manufacture, this is a list I got a few years ago (2003) and hope it helps out. Knowledge of commonly used military ammunition assists Web site designed & maintained by Cap and Ball Revolvers . St. Etienne, in France, established its proof house in the reign of Francis I., at the beginning of the sixteenth century. The barrel pictured is a perfect example as it bears all of the Italian proof marks described. 1851 Navy Engraved .44 Cal Nickel Black Powder Revolver. We have just started to assemble this on going source of Proof Didn't find what you were looking for? Recalling that I'd typically shot 30 grains through my Italian 1860 Army, I velocity-tested the Colt with 19 grains, 25 grains, and 30 grains. 1967 = XXIII. 0000064406 00000 n 1891 - present 16 0000000016 00000 n 0000026203 00000 n 0000057983 00000 n 3. PROOF MARK CIRCA PROOF HOUSE TYPE OF PROOF AND GUN since 1852 Belgium provisional black powder proof for breech loading guns and rifled barrels - - double proof marking for unfurnished . The third is a plain stamp, with the letters A.V.E. Says made in italy on barrel. The Gibbs Deluxe Target Rifle features an octagon-to-round blued steel barrel, checkered and oil finished walnut stock with pistol grip, and premium wood butt plate and nose cap. 0000001156 00000 n Starting price $499. 0000080518 00000 n This will be an on going If it is a fake it's more likely any of the Italian proof marks and makers stamps were carefully filed off or filled then filed. The "PN" under a five point star in a wheel is the actual proof mark. startxref 0000001796 00000 n This rifle is equipped with an elevation and windage adjustable Creedmoor rear sight and spirit-level tunnel front sight with windage adjustment micrometer screw. 0000004861 00000 n Serial Numbers. 0000049974 00000 n The mark is applied after the gun has passed the Belgian proof. 1858 New Army Revolvers. It has a Naval scene roll marked on the cylinder. The fourth the crossed branches, with the letters S.E.E., and a cross in their angles. individual armorers and inspectors used their own unique stamps in some Thanks for finding it for me. Marlin-Savage-Winchester 1: A true smoothbore rifle. This mark is found on guns that is not made in Belgium by countries that use proofs that is not recognized by the Belgian Proof House. 0000050991 00000 n EMF Company, Inc. 1900 East Warner Ave. There are a number of "Proofs" as they are sometimes referred to have changed over 0000105361 00000 n 0000143308 00000 n trailer 0000006823 00000 n AN ITALIAN .44 BLACK POWDER REVOLVER SERIAL NUMBER D50212. referred to more commonly as "Proof Marks", location, rather than a manufacturer. below are samples of Proof Marks of different countries. acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". In now represents definitive black powder proof except for muzzle loaders 1893 - present 14 Designates guns with rifled chokes. be reproduced, in part or in whole, without the written permission of '. You are using an out of date browser. determination. Gun Barrel Proof Marks. The PN stamp means "poudre noir" or black powder proof. In my own web search for the most recent date code chart, I came across this one: What is the date for CT code? xb``b``` @16 l-,8sh-[1%3*.\ M=S!b6B>&X=ME#e*U3\'VC~Aa1 &w"2))vttgh \4 Tb@Rj hd`@ )fc``T v`#l> ^1?Y,Zi;?I+OT)po=|:U:EK{ mg`r#w /r] Make: Italy (Proof marks are inconclusive to manufacturer) Model: Old Model 1851 Serial Number: E2690 Gauge/Caliber: 44 Black Powder Action Type: Black Powder Revolver Barrel . Largest pricelist of weapons and civil supplies. 0000003020 00000 n Well worth some research. PROOF MARK CIRCA PROOF HOUSE TYPE OF PROOF AND GUN 1891-1928 Budapest smokeless powder proof for parabellum pistols Since 1981 Ferlach smokeless powder proof for parabellum . There were a good many very small family shops in the Gardone, Brescia area of Italy like MOFRA and others. 0000009831 00000 n This "certifies" that each chamber was proofed at 8,800 psi with a 30% plus load. The well known manufacturers did not want their name and reputation on a cheaper firearm, so these were sub-contracted out. Many old guns may have been re-proved once or more, often in a different proof house from the original one. 0000108581 00000 n 0000131632 00000 n For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 0000050678 00000 n Starting price $549. x4hjF%1I'WVH">^I*Yt} FSYD"}di)IK n!Hhf$=o:k$y}$*&L(\G'zyKdlG?Q\7>>SSV6K#OqDSIpzNh~~ x #=l%l&U ps~31H^$qB^7'0]?Ew#E=9+|uL>k/,xS-7wiN=KqOF` m2; ul_w`N` Lv endstream endobj 36 0 obj 741 endobj 37 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 36 0 R >> stream The Standard mark for French Government arms was a crown above an E., and this crown has a three looped top, with the orb or ball and cross as ornament, and is so distinguished from the cross-crested crown of some St. Etienne weapons. Spain depended for long upon the proof of individual armourers, and most Spanish barrels were marked with the stamp of the maker set in a square or oblong block under a crown. Italian Date Codes. (1977 and 1979) Now, if I had only had the presence of mind to write down that info when I finished the .36 cal brass framed pistol kit. Definitive proof applies to all weapons and shows that the weapon has been tested with an overcharge of propellant and missile. PN under a star is an Italian black powder proof. Price: $380.00. Austrian arms were marked with the double eagle, and later with the letters Wn 78; a variety of private marks of manufacturers are also in use. Davide Pedersoli's philosophy has been and is to retrace history by offering superior quality products even in gun reproductions Recreating a history of more than 150 years, our models represent for collectors, shooters and hunters a wide range of guns, short and long, military and civil, that characterize the historic period between the 1730 . These include the Joined Mar 2, 2020 the examiner in determining the caliber designation of a military Markings: The top of the rifled barrel is marked "Col. LeMat." surrounded by a decorative border, the left is . 0000059736 00000 n Specifications: Manufacturer -- Fusav di Bini & Baronio (Italy) Date Code -- "AD" = 1978 date of manufacture Barrel Markings: Left side -- 36 Cal. 5% DISCOUNT ON ORDERS OVER 5000 ROUNDS!!! Uberti's extensive line of traditional guns has established a long history of reliability. Many Italian made reproduction cap and ball firearms retail used in the $40 to $150 range. There is a complete lack of many records, but with the assistance of many replica collectors from around the world, and especially in France and Italy, we have been able to identify many of them. 0000001474 00000 n December 20, 2013 in SASS Wire, Here are the codes for knowing when your Italian-manufactured firearm was made (proof date), This is from an Italian shotgun Website: shotguns.se/html/italy.htm, http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/Italian_Proof_Date_Codes_1945_-_2030.pdf. Most imported black powder replica revolvers are stamped with a variety of markings Italian, Belgian, German, Spanish or other Proof House symbols, manufacturer's symbols, and importer's symbols along with an encoded date of proof, also considered the date of manufacture. Further changes were initiated, when smokeless powder necessitated more stringent conditions of proof. 0000010481 00000 n Their proof marks are two feathers, or curved branches, crossed with letters in the angles of the cross so formed. Military firearms can be difficult to identify because they CF - 2010. 0000090159 00000 n Uberti cartridge rifles embody the look and feel of the Old West. It has black powder only on one of the lower barrel flats but is stamped upside down. 0000086754 00000 n 0000037734 00000 n A proof load normally runs 30% more pressure than its corresponding service load, not 30% more powder. Italy started rather late with proofmarks, they started on december 30:th 1923 with a proof that was compulsory. Italian Proofmarks & Dates of Manufacture 1945 - 2030, shooting, hunting, fishing, blacksmithing. 0000004839 00000 n 0000009588 00000 n 1893 - 1924 1930 - present CH B RAYE 15 Designates 4th or nitro proof; the mark contains the name of the powder in abbreviated form ( Schultze, E.C.) Rifles & Musket Information. . Ste., 1-D, Santa Ana, CA 92705 | 800-430-1310 | 949-261-6611 | Fax 949-756-0133. F.A.P. to share our findings by this means of communication. 0000001338 00000 n My revolver has 'Made in Italy' on the barrel, and the Italian Gardone proof as well as the Italian proof that has a star surrounded by 8 lands and grooves above the letters PN both appear several places on the frame and cylinder. Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". 0000001623 00000 n gSchf41,%0&nMF;RD}|MY3-!!6m"m._Z8eGW7F]_[jGFS/`L{U\_&?4c@4xhZ+FGmLQA!^D9`xk'3'SL`AbE39a1Xl72t1Hl>|l lX3r7 @^o5I+u`,cB|H^iaPcbxW|)skz5UXx?8|qAo:"QUvbsd,!BD_Z6R'z~oAWF|1b+Q5,J[D:Spx%Ojoqo[$4gxcX-)I._[2$)Kfk4Z?X-DNP[I1bv(~SE_m6#O. Can be without . All copies and uses are prohibited. 0000012820 00000 n Saillevillean E. reversed set in a square stamp (as shown below). 0000013830 00000 n THE PROOF MARK IS A STAR OVER PN. A PDF link to Dennis Adler's article about Italian Black Powder Proof marks is given below. 0000109981 00000 n HV{PTwjrh"1 fv] I cant seem to find the exact one any where. marks tell the country of origin of the weapon. Price: $525.00. The first cipher is the crossed branches surmounted by a crown, and with a cross or star in the three other angles. 0000008415 00000 n BICBWmaybe a call to PIetta or Uberti would solve the mystery?? 0000016410 00000 n Abbreviation and tradename for Early and Modern Firearms Corporation, a manufacturer and importer of black powder and cartridge arms in Studio City, California. Measuring the bore diameter and chamber Fjestad. So, what follows is a photo library of many of the various Black Powder Proofmarks, Date Codes, Importer, Distributor and Manufacturer's Marks to help with identifying the manufacturer of your revolvers, pistols or rifles. I hope it will aid those seeking information on their black powder cap & ball reproduction revolvers. 0000007663 00000 n 0000051690 00000 n The markings are factory inspection and proof markings. Fairly common in comparison, owners would have their favorite smokepole bored out instead of having the barrel re-rifled or "refreshed". The AE is the proof mark and that is decoded as 1979. H|TMs0+Vcv~$C4=[Yb$9?dowy3YY^TO~&nV;r6gReI LiFZj2C&-zR` to identify the manufacturer. Quick View Add to Cart . Above trigger has has shield pn and AE. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. FABBRICA ARMI F.LLI PIETTA DI PIETTA GIUSEPPE EC. 0000004871 00000 n Marks, Arsenal & Inspector Marks. All that tells is that it was made in Italy in 1976. As assembled below 0000084840 00000 n Seen on repaired guns that required re=proofing Uberti cartridge rifles embody the Look feel... Free download are cottage industry type weapons without a specific Brand italian black powder revolver proof marks to Pietta or Uberti would solve mystery... Reference books that display proof marks, cont.PROOF mark CIRCA saw that as that. Manufactured by F.A.P F.LLI when I finished the frame: MogrenE 0000008549 00000 n 0000001485 00000 0000003341. 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