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The fordam baldies aka belmont baldies aka baldie mob shaved their heads as far back as the 1940's and hung out at a candy store on belmont between 189th and fordham. Each of us bought our own uniforms and equipment and we all chipped in for our bus fees for away games. In that neighborhood, if you werent in a gang, you just went to school and you were fine, but if you were in a gang your chances of survival were 50/50. We had a gang that started in high school. Farmer was a polio stricken kid who was attacked by a gang called: "The That was my opportunity. There were like 20 of us. To make a zip gun you buy a cap gun. Today, thats what the gangs call itthe Bloods, the Crips, all of them, they call it flagging: I die for my flag. Read more about Bronx Gangs (1950s1960s): Popular Culture, who chained themselves to subways for the endless ride from Batteryto holy Bronx on benzedrine until the noise of wheels and childrenbrought them down shuddering mouth-wracked and battered bleak of brain and drained of brilliance in the drear light of Zoo,Allen Ginsberg (b. You go to parties and see a lot of the same faces. In fact, sometimes the girls would rumble with other clubs without the guys knowing. Terror, cross-eyed, 150 pounds, six foot four is the war machine of the Fordham Baldies. It took a lot of people out. You had the Dirty Ones up by Graham Avenue. We were always armed. They had a lotta heart. They punctured his lung and he almost died. I snorted it, sometimes I shot it, but not often. I ran up and down the fire escape, taking a lot of the tenants out. By the time they got there, however, the Baldies had left for their regular hangout on Belmont Ave a candy store called Piggys, hanging out and lolling about on the stoop. They We did most of our dirty business on the railroad tracks, so we got the name The Railroad Boys. About a month later, when he got out of the hospital, they invaded us again. Dusty Vision TV on Facebook and IG Hit the subscribe and notification (bell) button!BRONX GANGS Of The 1960s - FORDHAM BALDIES Wanderers Ducky Boys Lost Boys of The Bronx James HannonI dont not own the rights to any music in this videoDusty Vision TV Instagram: Dusty Vision TVFacebook: Dusty Vision TVIf you would like to be a guest on my program please email me at dustyangeloddcast@gmail.com or DM me on Instagram \"Dusty Vision TV\"Check out my other youtube channel \"Dusty Vision Radio\"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQCpoV0wVvjtGQN5ijpjGKACheck out my music. They banded together too, and thats the way it went. The biggest place we would go was the Starship. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. We hung around Aberdeen Park. Mario felt partially responsible for his brothers death and it was something that troubled him for his entire life. You know, you pull it out or you just display it, and people say, OK, were not gonna mess around. Most of the time when you would shoot, you did it not to hurt somebody, but to scare them. Now were going to wear these denim jackets with patches on them. And then all of a sudden, youd find yourself claiming a piece of Brooklyn as your fuckin real estate. That was a typical day. I never let anybody get close to me or walk behind me. But like I said, yeah, the cops beat your ass. So a lot of guys ODd. Who was I supposed to hang out with? Me and another Unknown Biker were convicted for it. I buried three of my brothers because of being in gangs and being involved in drugs and living in the ghetto. The Spanish guys were different. It was a black guy who did it to him, in a fight over a girl. Every time he came by the block there was a shootout, so everybody was always aware when he was passing by. I never robbed anybody. We had a lot of guys in the gangsometimes we had 40, sometimes we had 60, sometimes we had 100. I saw him on the corner at South 10th and Bedford, and I started shooting. I always used to buy magazines just to check out the bikes. Ernests son is now 58 years old and just now found out about his familys history in New York City. One of the bullets hit Montuoro, hitting him in the aorta, killing him. Giampetruzzi, Bonano, Santanielli and the rest of the Red Wings high tailed it out of the Bronx back to East Harlem, seething over the insults and plotting revenge. In fact, we protected people. Although the Jewish residents of East Harlem moved to other areas of NYC, they stayed in the neighborhood to sell their wares, either door to door, or via a storefront business. I wasnt hit too often. Starts out in Immortal (Crazy) Homicide Turf, Coney Island and the Original Nathans, and ends in. I was maybe 16. We used to wrap the gun up with a lot of tape, because those things had a tendency to blow up in your hands. Wed get harassed by the cops all the time, but then again, that was a time when if you had a fight on the street, the cops would grab you, kick you in the ass, and send you on your way like, Get outta here. The year is 1963 but their experiences are universal: falling in love, surviving in school and defending their turf against rivals like the Fordham Baldies, the Del Bombers and the Ducky Boys. For each institution, films are listed by release date, starting with the most recent. down on them. And then he died. banerjee@fordham.edu. I'm kind of busy so don't know if I can do much here, but if I come across things that are relevant, I'll add them. It was where I was going to end up, whether I wanted to or not. I also had to fight some of the guys in the club. It was a sanctuary, this rectangle here. Then you had all these other little clubs in between. Nobody would fuck with us. In the 1950s and 60s the youth gangs in the Bronx, New York, emerged with a particular notoriety.. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. The problem with the Bronx in 1978 was there were real gangs. You lived in one building, and the buildings to your left and right were abandoned, because they were gutted out by fires. Wed be going across the Williamsburg Bridge, shooting at them, them shooting at us. People from the neighborhood never called the cops on us because we were never troublemakers. I was 13 or 14 when I started. What they had at that time was called the Youth Squad. Houston Street down to Canal, and Bowery over to Lafayette. All of a sudden wed start hitting each other. We went down one night, had a fight with them, and Ill never forget it: We chased them all the way down Evergreen Avenue, and all of a sudden about 60 or 70 of them came out of a house. We also used the 'whistle' as an all clear after the cops had given up chasing us around and it was safe to come back out. What was so funny was that a lot of the people were intermingled, family-wise. Our gang was the wiseguys, you know what I mean? Baldies didn't shave their heads and in reality wore Ducks Ass hairdoos like The Fonz and were named after bald eagles? Overdosed, stuff like that. I was already scared by being in jail. The police were able to trace the car to Giamppetruzzi and a week later had arrested all the defendants in the case. This guy Frankie Boy was my best friend because he was really tough and I wasnt. I got locked up with another friend of mine. We were in the papers more than the president. Unlike the idiotic movie the wanderers, however, they didn't have any blacks in the gang, they went around to other neighborhoods to see if they could find some to beat up. At our peak, we were only about 100 strong, but the Dirty Ones had chapters in Bay Ridge and the Bronx. So we all hang out now, go to parties, things like that. You see it firsthand, and its all bullshit really. We were coming down Freeman Street to the club, and they started calling us out. 98.224.236.117 (talk) 03:15, 17 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]. He lived like that for a long time. Consider: Bronx gangs (mid-20th century) or something like Bronx gangs (1940s-1960s). We were all hanging out together already, the Unknowns and the South 9s. At about 4:55 p.m. after asking around where the Baldies hung out, the Red Wings rolled up on Piggys Candy store, double parking in front. There was a lot of acrimony between the Red Wings and Puerto Rican gangs from East Harlem like the Dragons and Viceroys. Wed drink winewere talking now maybe one oclock in the afternoon. From the east side, are One summer, we got into it with the Spanish gang. After a while, I realized that theynot just them, other clubs toowere being paid by the landlords to burn the buildings for the insurance. At its centre is Italian-American kid Richie (Ken Wahl) who is one of. The 70s was real nice. By the way, there were always fights yet it was all handled with reverence, one on one. I never jumped anybody. We buried each others brothers too much. We had a building on the Southside that we painted up with Free Sonny Barger. He was the Hells Angels national president who was locked up at the time. During the day wed just be hanging out, walking the streets of Brooklyn, meeting people, going to parties. Baseball Baseball: Facebook Baseball: Twitter Baseball: Instagram Baseball: Schedule Baseball: Roster Baseball: News Basketball Basketball: Facebook Basketball: Twitter Basketball: Instagram Basketball: Schedule Basketball: Roster Basketball: News Cross Country Cross Country: Facebook Cross Country: Twitter Cross . I lived on Fulton and Rockaway, which was home to another crew, the Fulton and Rockaway Boys. You could see how things escalated. We burned fires in the tunnels in the winter to stay warm, and we went swimming in the Bronx river when it was hot. You went home, you needed a couple of stitches, you know, you went to the neighborhood drugstore, you got butterfly stitches. By signing up, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy & to receive electronic communications from Vice Media Group, which may include marketing promotions, advertisements and sponsored content. Thats how I used to get my money. I used to steal a lot from factories. They became my brothers and sisters. In the back of the park there was a cemetery, and in the cemetery there was a hill. I remember a particular time when a group of us girls had a rumble with a gang called the Seven Immortals. Fourth, sources.I will be doing some more research and adding much more information. We could see them from the hill. Convicted Red Wings were Frank Ciappetta, Vincent Gugliemelli, Philip Bonanno, Jerry Santaniello and Frank Giampetruzzi. *Click on Fullscreen to see the full trial minutes*. I dont have any emotions anymore. The book is 6x9 and has 370 pages! at the Astoria Houses at 27th Ave. Patrol cars screamed into both If they caught you, you were going to get an ass whuppin. They wear leather jackets with a skull on the back and "FB" (Fordham Baldies) on the arm. I had a very bad temper back then. If you want to see somebodys colors, you walk around the back and look at them. The bond between people who were in gangs was amazing. But there were girls where I had to kick their ass. Lost Boys of the Bronx: An Oral History of the Ducky Boys By James Hannon. We were never really into robbing people. Once you drink a couple gallons of that wine, youre ready to go. Their members use racial epithets to describe their rivals. I remember my first encounter with a drive-by. Hispanics and Blacks were just coming into prominence in the late 50's. Someone happened to see two of the guys from the Arabian Knights so we pulled over. We never had problems against each other, because we grew up in the same neighborhood. A car can sit on the street two or three days today. Five leather jacket clad Astoria gangs almost mix it up with A lot of guys got hurt, and a couple a guys got hurt really bad. Baldies wounded.Fordham Baldies/Italian Red Wings Gang War. And to make it more interesting, this gang fight happened far from East Harlem it happened in the Bronx in Baldies turf at 189th Street and Belmont Ave. Like one time, I saw it was clear through so I just patched it up, and forgot about it. The gang was started around 1955 by the older guys. I went over to the South 9th Bikers in early 1980, the same year I went to jail. I gave her two bucks and I came in about two seconds, then went home and jerked off ten times thinking about it. Big car, big wallet, and next thing you know theyre doing fifty years in jail. Often it was handled one on? The memories are all roughly the same, or close to it. The only time I ever went to the hospital was the first time I got shot, because I didnt know what to expect. It wasnt too hard to see the handwriting on the wall. They had me in the bullpen with him when the witnesses came. Astoria. If I had to stick you, I would stick you. It was a crazy neighborhood. To this day, we still hang out, and wed do anything for each other. They still have them down there, these buildings where the cellars have all these different rooms. The Dukes were on Roebling and South 3rd, over to South 1st. You could also take a chimney apartgrab a couple bricks and throw those. Originating in the late 1940s, the Red Wings appeared on the record until at least 1959. I knew so many people that everybody would open their doors for me. But I wasnt there, I just wound up getting accused of it. The Red Wings with Frank that June 1 were John Hall, Louis DePetris, Philip Bonnano, Jerry Santaniello and a girl only known as Bella. Wed hang out in the park at night. I only see a couple guys from the neighborhood now. It was because of who you were. Then, in a way that only the Internet can make happen, I received an email from another nephew of Ernests who was actually able to find Ernests unborn son at the time (when Ernest was killed he was married with a boy and his wife was 7 months pregnant with another son on the way). Click here to order your copy of Brooklyn Rumble today! I go to a funeral now and I dont even cry. Also, we used to have a lot of gay guys come around and theyd get us a couple pills, some marijuana, and bullets for our zip guns. All except the sadistic Ducky Boys who seem to suddenly materialize at the opportune moment, are more like social clubs and do little besides partying and hanging out. That was the big thing. If you were out to get a guy, you wanted to put him in the hospital. From time to time, wed bump into them and theyd make fun of us like, Hey, we got your park. We were so fuckin' broke, we had six jackets and maybe 30 guys. We were trying to imitate them. It wasnt about, This is where were hanging out, anymore. DiVincenzo and Caleo were both members of the Baldies but had no criminal record. You werent even allowed to kick the guy once he was down. They looked at both of us, and I was a little relieved because I said to myself, well, they really was there, so Im gonna walk. This guy was always strapped. After the Kennedy assassination, somebody opened up the door and let the drugs in. We were trying to hide, actually, because the NYPD Youth Squad was always down here, asking us questions like who was who, and who was our leader. Basically, the Dirty Ones was the only gang that was friendly with us. I lost my virginity at like 14. That was when the Bronx was burning. Back in those days, we always had a clubhouse. They loved us, you know, because they were fags and they loved young kids. It was about territory. On a warm Saturday night, wed all be up on the hill. Was a wild time growing up, some bad, some good, but many learning experiences came from those times. They fought on the handball court with no shoes on. We all got along. I never believed in that, so I never did it. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. They didnt look like they bathed. The gangs started separating. SM28, Mount Carmel Candy Store Home of the Best New York Egg Creams. We had no real guns, just the ones that we made, which were a joke. With a peculiar frequency, a click of the cable remote shows the Fordham Baldies hanging out at the corner of Fordham Road and Grand Concourse, the foot chase through 1963 central Bronx alleyways . Indeed, I started this at someone else's suggestion, with the understanding that s/he would pick up from there. Wed look down on them and theyd look up at us. It was on 42nd between Eighth and Ninth in the back of a parking lot. We had a clubhouse. Eventually everybody said, Were not going to dance no more. You stick a car antenna in it and file down the part that you cock backthe hammer. After 1940, the Jewish population faded and their diaspora paved the way for the hispanics to settle there. lol" Another former gang member from the Garrisons had this to say about the Duckies: "If you were planning to visit the Botanical Gardens in the Bronx you needed to concern yourself with the "Duck(ie)s." Legend has it, if you are visiting the Bronx Botanical Gardens and blast out a 'Duckie Whistle', Duckies will show up to greet you till this day! Then they got out of the cars a second time and the guy ran away and Frankie ran after him. For more information on the Baldies, please visit James Hannons website, Lantern-Media where he shares some of his research on the Fordham Baldies as well as another period gang called the Duckys. In the case I am talking about here, there are no school rumours about a Baldie invasion. They had high collars, buttoned down, and on the back you had RR. But we didnt really go out of our way too much with the sweaters and the costumes. Once again, I wanted to go out with someone who was in that gang. Wed drink Night Train. We were able to do that, whereas the newcomers werent. You lived in the neighborhood, you joined a gang. They yell one word in Yiddish, and everybody comes out the woodwork. We didnt have rules or initiations. Thats where the money was. Anybody who had a Boy after their nameJohnny Boy, Frankie Boythey were always in trouble, cause they were always trying to prove they were a man. Usually it was chains or sticks; knives and zip guns occasionally. Bucks, the Gents and the Garrisons gangs. Naturally, there were a lot of shot-up people. Not many fights broke out there. Unless this was a separate incident, the gang was not the Redwings, but the Sinners. Can't remember all their name and only some of their last names. 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